Monday, July 9, 2012

Position Available: Neturei Karta Spokesman — A Reply to David Harris-Gershon and his Self-Hate

If you're not familiar with Neturei Karta, they're the crazy Hasids who fly Palestinian flags, hate Israel and attend Mahmoud Ahmedinejad's Holocaust denial conferences where they blame Zionism for the Shoah. If you're not familiar with David Harris-Gershon, he's the person who claims to be a proud Jew who loves Israel while he constantly spews hatred of Israel, never has anything nice to say about Israel and looks the other way when others spew antisemitism in response to his garbage. He might not be a Hasid, but he would certainly fill the role of spokesman for Neturei Karta quite well given the hatred of Israel they both share.

In his latest piece, Harris-Gershon claims that he has come to support BDS — Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions — out of love for Israel. Never mind that the BDS movement wishes to see the end of Israel as a Jewish and democratic state. The so-called "right of return" they advocate for is nothing more than an attempt to effect a one-state solution in which there is only Palestine and there is no Israel. If he supports BDS, that is what he supports. It is therefore impossible to support BDS out of love for Israel. If he had even the tiniest love for Israel, then he would not support a movement that seeks Israel's destruction.

Harris-Gershon writes of the potential reaction he will face within the Jewish community:

To some Jews, I will now (wrongly) be viewed as an enemy, as anti-Semitic, as anti-Israel. Some in my community may, upon reading this, choose to withdraw. It's happened to others.

He is right that he will be viewed as an enemy. He is right that he will be viewed as antisemitic. He is right that he will be viewed as anti-Israel. Why? Because, in my opinion, at least, and in the opinions of many others, I suspect, he is all those things. His making common cause with those that seek Israel's destruction and then his formal embrace of a movement which has Israel's destruction as its end goal is evidence enough. To me, it makes him nothing more than a shtetl Jew who wishes for all the antisemitic and anti-Israel gentiles to pat him on the head and tell him what a good, little Jew he is.

The antisemites have been on notice for the past 64 years. The day of the meek Jew dependent upon the good will of gentiles is done. We are a proud, strong, free and independent people that has assumed our place among the peoples of the world. We hold our fate in our own hands. We will not go back to a world where our fate is in the hands of others. We will not go back to a world where every nation is free to close its doors to us in times of persecution. We are an independent people with a state where we are the majority — with all the good and bad that comes with that.

To David Harris-Gershon, and those like him, you should be honest about what you support. If you support BDS, then you oppose Israel's continued existence as a Jewish and democratic state. You cannot say in one breath that you love Israel and in the other support its destruction. You cannot say that you love Israel and that is why you support a movement which seeks its destruction. You cannot claim to speak for anything but the very, very small minority you are within the Jewish community.

Today, our Israeli kinsmen and kinswomen live the dream Hatikvah speaks of. Their hope has been realized. They are a free people in their land. That hope — and that reality — will not be taken away from them or from the Jewish people as a whole. Am Yisrael Chai.

22 comments:

  1. Yep... Gershon - Harris IS the enemy. He ranks with those Jews that served as Kapo's because they could or those who actually helped the early Nazi's and got called "honorary Aryans".

    This is an excellent piece Reuven... Screw Geshon-Harris and all those haters like him. Somewhere in hell, anti-Semites throughout history are smiling.

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    1. Thanks. When I read this piece my blood boiled. A Jewish state is an absolute necessity. I always come back to the question of what things would be like if Israel were ten years older — if it were founded in 1938 instead of 1948. How many more Jews would be alive today? How many of my relatives that did not come to America at the beginning of the 20th century would have lived? How many more cousins would I have today? We learned the hard way that the only way to protect ourselves is to have our own state. That is one of the ways we give meaning to "Never Again."

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  2. Here's the thing with Gershon. The pathetic little liar is actually a microcosm of the entire BDS movement itself.

    Just as BDS prays on some decently-intentioned but misinformed and boderline functional people in order to spread its toxic agenda of Israel-hate in the very thin guise of a peace movement, Gershon himself prays on decently-intentioned but misinformed and borderline functional people in an attempt to raise his online profile and sell his story in order to escape a miserable life of anonymous failure.

    Oh, he's so brave for risking the wrath of the big bad Jewish community and taking a bold stand against Israel? I'll bet the mental midgets who dominate Daily Kos are eating that shit up! But really, it is the opposite of brave to 'come around' to a position that one has always held and lied about, and lie about that position anyway. And it's the opposite of brave to rant on a site where most Jews with half a spine no longer post. How about he take his "I'm a brave Jew" shtick to the Gaza strip, and the see how jihadis who he falates online actually think of him.

    Anyone who is just slightly smarter than the Daily Kos blobs knows that BDS is not a peace movement, in fact it is the opposite of a peace movement, it is simply the political arm of a war movement, and that Gershon is the worst kind of amateur fraud.

    But in the end, it's the old 'fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me' thing. The fact that these idiots who utterly dominate Daily Kos continue, time after time, to be suckered by such transparent liars like Gershon and Sandra Tamari and her ridiculous whining about being denied entry to a country she intends to destry means that I have no sympathy for them. Gershon is a snivly lying fuck, but the people who fall for his crap are even worse than he is. I have more respect for the people who buy gold because Glenn Beck tells them to than I do for the idiots at Daily Kos that can't see right through Gershon's pathetic whining ass.

    Oh, and David Harris Gershon

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    1. To be fair, fizziks, I/P is largely dead aside from the occasional flare up. Yes, the problem is that many don't know better and don't know exactly what Harris-Gershon and BDS stand for. They don't know that it would mean Israel's end and they don't know that before BDS cleaned up its site it called for what amounted to a Jew-boycott, specifically exempting Arab Israelis from the effects of BDS.

      The important thing to remember, though, is that people like Sandra Tamari (a particularly disgusting human being given her confrontation of Elie Wiesel when he was giving a talk about the Shoah) and David Harris-Gershon is that they are such a small and insignificant majority. I don't know whether or not they realize this, but I honestly don't care. Also, I don't think they are particularly invested in the election of Democrats given that the Democratic Party strongly supports Israel. I strongly suspect their preferred candidate this year was running in the GOP primaries and has a son who is a senator from Kentucky.

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    2. I know, that's exactly it. From my time there it was abundantly clear that Gershon, Tamari, et al have exactly zero interest in whether Democrats are elected, or even whether Democratic policies are advanced in the United States at all. Even though that is, supposedly, the stated purpose of that site.

      So how can something that is so abundantly clear to anyone with half a brain cell paying attention still elude most of the people who post there? I don't think they are a small and insignificant minority. I remember Gershon being constantly on the rec list, with fawning comments from many quarters.

      I actually care about Democrats being elected. I have donated way too much money to Democratic candidates this cycle.

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    3. I think the big problem is that many people get caught up in a trap that just because the Israelis have a military advantage that automatically makes them wrong. They also get caught up in the notion that Tamari and her ilk like to portray, namely that they are the indigenous inhabitants of the land and that Jews are just European colonists. They don't understand just how antisemitic these notions are or that these people are trying to deprive Jews of the right to national self-determination in our ancestral homeland. I believe most, if questioned, would support the Democratic Party platform that calls for the implementation of a fair and realistic two-state solution that recognizes the sovereign rights of Jews and Palestinians in their own nation-states.

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  3. (livosh1)
    I have a slightly different take. It is no surprise at all that someone who (for some time now) has (a) virtually locked arms in solidarity with those who seek the end of Israel as a Jewish state, (b) never says boo about the antisemitic comments that are left in his hit and run anti-Israel diaries, and (c) puts all the blame on I/P on one side, would now endorse the BDS hatefest. I mean, really, was there ever any doubt about where his sympathies were? No. This is not news at all. That he attempts to portray it as something new is laughable on its face.

    The news that is disturbing and real, however, is the announcement that the Netanhayu panel proposes to formally endorse the notion that there is no occupation. A policy like this will do far more to undermine Israel's long term legitimacy than anything that the supporters of BDS do. Netanyahu & Co. is ruining Israel for the Jewish people, and that should be a cause for concern for those of us that want a Jewish state to prosper for generations to come.

    But . . . that some Israel-hating blogger formally endorses BDS? Who the fuck cares.

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    1. That is extremely problematic. At the same time, it is already clear that Israel's AG will reject the report. It's possible that while the right has such dominance in the current polls it could be on track for tearing itself apart, much as it did when Sharon broke with Likud right before his stroke.

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    2. Agreed livosh and Netanyahu's panel is very disturbing. But I am not willing to give up on the country just because of this.

      And livosh you are right on. This fucked up finding WILL do more to hurt Israel than anything else.

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  4. Paul in San FranciscoJuly 10, 2012 at 12:14 PM

    Gershon is the quintessential Useful Idiot. He's a shtetl Jew, and no different than anti-gay preachers who are secretly gay.

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    1. But at least we know shtetl Jews read us and are so annoyed by the fact that us pesky proud Jews call them out that they feel the need to out us elsewhere

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    2. I prefer "house Jew" or even "wannabe house Jew". I think it more accurately conveys the situation. Gershon seeks affirmation and pats on the head from the bosses.

      If he can kiss enough ass, maybe it will get him into the house (book deal) and out of the fields (being a middle aged man who has nothing to show for his life other than some days as a substitute kindergarten teacher and a Dukakis-like desire to hug the person who tried to murder his wife in front of him).

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    3. fizziks, shtetl Jew conveys that someone has a certain mentality. Namely that Jews have no right to fight back and should remain in the shtetl and under the protection of, and dependent upon, non-Jews rather than standing on our own. It is a belief that we are not entitled to the same things as every other nation on this planet. It is a belief that literally went up in smoke and yet some still cling to it. Shtetl Jew is perfectly appropriate for such self-hating Jews.

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  5. I think it is extremely sad that the people on a website supposedly dedicated to electing Democrats, and which repeatedly gives lip service to being the "reality based community", can't be bothered to spend a few minutes learning and what the BDS movement represents and stands for. The way that they will just uncritically believe anyone who pushes a few of the right rheotorical buttons indicates that they are no better than the dittoheads who are in thrall to Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh.

    Is it too much to ask that people who consider themselves to be "reality-based" learn about the BDS movement? Invest a bit to educate themselves about the Israeli-Arab conflict, and see if BDS's vision of one state and placing the blame for a 90 year conflict entirely on one side really squares with their professed values? Apparently so.

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    1. Paul in San FranciscoJuly 10, 2012 at 1:56 PM

      Part of the problem is the cowardice of the BDS leaders. They don't have the guts to be explicit about their true beliefs and goals. Instead, they coyly dance around the truth, using winks and nods. I don't have the link handy, but even a longtime pro-palestinian supporter, norm finkelstein, called them on their bullshit in a recent interview that showed up on youtube. The Israel-haters' heads exploded in outrage. Finkelstein made no attempt to hide his disgust and contempt for the BDS people and their dishonesty.

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    2. That is all very true.

      But on the other hand, much of the blame still has to rest with those who are willing victims of lies. I mean, whenever I am considering signing on to any movement or opinon, I try to do a bit of research to see what I am getting into and what I am getting involved with. It is sad that the supposedly "reality based" can't be asked to do that.

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  6. You know... here is the thing...

    Whether or not Gershon-Harris is a poor excuse for a human being and someone who would sell his own people out for a pat on the head from haters the world over is immaterial. History is filled with people like this and they are generally completely reviled (and rightly so). Gershon-Harris is one of these people.

    The Levy Committee Report however, is truly a damaging report on many different levels. Not only is it horrible policy but it is morally wrong. Simply put.

    It pushes Israel into a very dark corner where NOW Israel has to make a choice about what kind of place it is to be. Will it be a Democracy, or a Jim Crow like State? If there is no Occupation then what has been happening to the Palestinians who live there?

    This is very bad news.

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    1. It is bad news, but I do take hope in the fact that the AG will reject the report. Israel will remain a Jewish and democratic state. I still think the right could fracture again for various reasons and because of ideologies that are vastly different on the ultimate outcome of the Israel-Arab conflict.

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    2. I guess I don't understand what has the report itself actually changed here. Israel has always (since 1967) faced the same dilemma: Hold onto the land and either incorporate or disenfranchise the people, or get rid of the land.

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    3. Because this straight out denies Palestinian Statehood west of the Jordan River. It basically formalizes "hold on to the land" which is something that many of us oppose. Israel may face the same situation but the Levy Committee (a committee appointed by PM Netanyahu) now says that there has been a choice.

      Now the question is, what to do from there? The choice was bound to come to a head. Now it has.

      Oh and also the report rejects that the Palestinian People have a right to a State in that area. It kills a realistic and/or workable Two State Solution.

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    4. Do you think it really kills a workable two state solution? That is what negotiations are for. If and when negotiations can happen, the Palestinians will come with their ridiculous demands (unlimited settlement of Palestinians in pre-1967 Israel) and Israel will come with their ridiculous demands (we keep most of the West Bank) and they will both give that all up to achieve an agreement.

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    5. If adopted I do think it kills the 2SS, because it states that this is Israeli land to do what they want therefore there will be no negotiation. It basically takes away any right the Palestinians had to statehood.

      There might be a 2SS in the works but it certainly won't be "workable"

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